Nemesis

Agreed.

I'm not going to keep going on as I really do want this game to work and I think it's really, REALLY close.

When we've been running as a team and doing things the Focused Gaming way, it has been as much fun as anything else I've played. I think it's human nature to just get greedy for that and want to experience it every time you play.

As it stands, sometimes the game design just kicks you in the face...not to mention the competitive ego. But I'm hopeful that the DEV's have it under control.

For their first game, they have been great on the forums and in acknowledging the problems. Which is a big first step, in my opinion.

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Hidus

There is no team balancing in place on the beta servers which makes for some capital 'S' steamrolls. Not fun if you are on the receiving end. The game is definitely momentum based the way the frontlines work. We will have to make an effort to ensure teams are as balanced as is reasonably expectable on our server.

BHack

I always thought the animations in the game were far better than most games. Running and such looks much more well animated than in the battlefield games. So I'm going to have to disagree with your opinion on that one.

The one issue they do have with animations is the way the player models interact with the environment. They tend to hit, get caught, or get obstructed on pieces of the environment or elevation changes. Everytime this happens the animation of the player model goes into some in between keyframe which screws it up and makes it look bad. When it's working right it looks very good though.

All the other stuff you said is supposedly fixed, so I'm not worried about it.

The real issue that generates frustration for me is what Zoraster touched on. The frontlines game mode, with enough players, can quickly devovle into semi-chaos. Their goal of focusing the action certainly works, but 64 people fighting over two or three points has its downsides. I can't IMAGINE trying to play streets like that - with 30 to 40 people it is just anarchy.

In battlefield you could move in, battle one or sometimes two enemy squads defending a point, win the fight, then get the point neutral before they spawn back in. This didn't happen 100% of the time but that was generally how things went. In this game, taking a point seems more difficult. I ALWAYS feel outnumbered when trying to do anything and it's easy to see why. Any given point you attack will have roughly 50% of the enemy team spawning at it. They aren't even on 'defense' they are just trying to get back into the action. So here you are attacking a point up against not only the defenders, but everyone else spawning in... THEN the defenders you did successfully kill come back because the spawn timer is 10 seconds.

Everyone is wondering where the rest of your team is in these situations, but the reality is that - unless you have a hidden SL, everytime they die they spend at least 20 seconds in travel time trying to get back to help you. The odds are never in your favor.

I think bigger maps with isolated points will help alot. Streets is a bad example because the points are close enough where people spawning at tents can easily engage people attacking subway. The close proximity is a big part of the problem. More spread out fronts will at least cut some of the spam.

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Hidus

I'm disappointed that they have not created different sized versions of the same maps to support different numbers of players like BF2/2142. If we have a 50+ player server then Street is going to be ridiculously spammy. To put things in perspective I read that the map "Solar Farm" is 4x the time of Oil Field so we can definitely expect some larger maps.

jepzilla

I've been playing the beta pretty heavily for a few months now, and in my experience, the RS assault rifle is better than the WC one. My impression is that the WC has a higher rate of fire, but higher deviation and less stopping power per bullet than the RS rifle. In a one-on-one scenario all else being equal, I find I am much more likely to come out the victor when using the RS rifle.

L10N

Did you say 4x or is it that a typo? Do they want to make this a game dominated by camping losers? That map will be like 75% snipers with air support and 25% everything else. Oil fields is already a pain to move on with the snipers and airstrikes.

I think the beta just feels too loose and clunky, I just don't feel comfortable playing it. I feel like my character is taking his sweet time to scope in, or respond to my movement and firing. I also hate the fact that moving a centimeter while scoped in causes my scope to go ridiculously wide and take forever to come back in.

Major pet peeve, why is our scope just a zoom of our vision? did all the soldiers get superman's eyes? I want a scope that looks like a scope with a range indicator and red dot in the center; cod4 does this very well with the acog. I want to feel like I am scoping downrange instead of squinting my eyes to see a little farther.

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Hidus

Snipers are a lot less of a problem once you stop trying to run across large open sections of the map on foot. Jump in a humvee, drive up to the point and smash them in the teeth. Alternatively precision airstrikes are an amazing counter to snipers.

There are small time delays built into the stance transitions in the game. It rewards players who are ready and waiting in a shooting position as opposed to sprinting around expecting to be able to insta-shoot anything that moves. Moving while scoped doesn't affect your scope at all on flat terrain. I do it all the time around corners - you can see it in the vids I made. If you try to strafe over uneven terrain then it will cause your scope to jump which seems pretty plausible to me.

Don't really know what you mean. I never had any issues with the scoping in this game.

Concr3te

I fully agree with L10N on the scopes. I hate the way the scopes worked in the beta, it just doesn't feel right. In Armed Assault, the ACOG scopes and the other more advanced scopes worked the same way, that's why I always took either an Aimpoint weapon or an ironsights one. The way scopes were done in 2142 was perfect. All came with a scope including a red dot or anything similar and you were still able to see 'around' the scope if you know what I mean.
I really hope they will change the scopes, especially on the SMG's, on which it does look like they use an aimpoint scope and not some stupid 4x zoom thing.

Hidus

Are you talking about the black edges surrounding the round scope view?

jaymind

I like the game, but something in the weapons firing still seems off to me. I don't know if it's the cross hairs or what but something does seem off to me yet.

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