Stop stealing games

**BHack** · 05-15-2008, 03:19 PM

Good post from a man in the biz:

http://www.quartertothree.com/game-t...ad.php?t=42663

**icky** · 05-15-2008, 03:37 PM

You can get games for free? Sweet!

I bought TQ months ago and haven't played it yet. What category does that put me in?

Concr3te · 05-15-2008, 03:41 PM

Interesting read. It's sad to hear Iron Lore has gone bankrupt because of piracy, according to that dev, that is.
I have downloaded games myself before, but either to only play them with my cousin for one day or to try it out and buy the retail later on. (No, this isn't an excuse: I've actually bought Supreme Commander after I tried the pirated version for a few hours) The only case where I downloaded a game and never paid for it, is GRAW 2. This isn't because I don't like the game, in fact I think it's great, but just to hopefully hurt Ubisoft, at least a bit. They just delivered a crappy, unfinished product with RSV 2, which I did buy. RSV 2, however, isn't bad but it just could've been so much better.

One more thing, though:

I think one of the main reasons for piracy is pretty obvious: money. If the publishers would finally lower the rather high prices that are being asked for PC games these days (CoD 4 in particular) more people would buy the game instead of download it illegally too. It's just not sensible to buy a game for over 40 euros only to find out it sucks.

**Hidus** · 05-15-2008, 03:54 PM

Oh hey, another whiney developer who didn't get a new ferarri because of those evil pirates.

/don't care

**Tybalt** · 05-15-2008, 04:20 PM

These guys always exaggerate piracy. Want to know why CoD4 sells 10 to 1 on console to PC? Probably because there are a shit ton more consoles in the US than there are gaming PCs. Not to mention that CoD4 is THE game to have on console, but only one amongst many on the PC.

It's just a red herring, something for devs to blame their failures on. What were the most pirated games of all time? Probably GTA1, GTA2, Quake, and Doom - some of the most successful franchises.

**Meers007** · 05-15-2008, 04:38 PM

Boo hoo. If you guys have ever seen the episode of South Park where they pirate music?
"Now he can't buy his son that island, and now can only buy him a smaller island."
Welcome to me not caring.

**DugLess** · 05-15-2008, 05:09 PM

I stopped reading the article then the guy started using numbers that are complete bullshit. He said he delved deeply into the numbers and stated the number of games sold for console vs. pc, without even looking at the # of people currently playing on both platforms? I don't steal games, and I think it's bad, but this guy is full of shit. Fuck him.

PANDAmonium · 05-15-2008, 05:36 PM

Wait, where are there numbers of people playing on consoles versus PC? I just want to see where he's bullshitting.

I'm just saying, not everybody strikes it rich just because they make video games. You're not being a big man by pretending that one less rich dude doesn't make you care - especially when you're an independent developer, it's not always a question of developing one game and suddenly becoming Bioware or whatever.

**Gnoma** · 05-15-2008, 05:44 PM

But entering into a market where you know there are major issues of such things as piracy then complaining about it is another thing.

We all need to earn a living and I completely understand some hardships with doing so, but if you're an independent developer for video games then you already know the risk of making games in todays world.

I for one dont go out and buy new games unless my close friends say it is worth it, or I just want to buy it because it has been pumped up so high. Usually my friends have already pirated it to try it themselves then went out and bought the real version or I do the same.

If I get a pirated game and say WTF is this shit I am glad I didnt waste the $50 to try out the worthless POS. If I get the demo and like it then I go out a buy it to avoid all those problems with pirated new software that hasnt been kinked for all the pirated issues.

But that guy should grow a pair, not make up numbers, not compare PC versus Console, and stop whining about the market he DECIDED to get into and just do what he can to make money.

**Zoopy** · 05-15-2008, 05:58 PM

I think the hardware is the biggest cause of PC problems (as was mentioned). The Intel integrated graphics chip caused a huge uproar since people thinking they had a grahics card could not play games.

Iron Lore went ut of beuisness more so from THQ (the publisher) than piracy. THQ did nothing to help them outside of normal funding.